Hey all. I'm really fucking confused lmao.
like i'm writing this in school right now. I just finished a really important test but for some reason my teacher still let us have our computers out anyways??? i dunno haha. anyways i'm just rambling right now, let me make a point
on what the actual hell this is
i just finished a playthrough of the founder's game and suddenly i have a genloss hyperfixation again lol
so yeah i'm just typing this out on 9:42 am on a wednesday morning while listening to a jack stauber playlist
i have so much goddamn theories- hell, i've just been watching as much theory videos i could find that weren't blocked
ANYWAYS-
things i've noticed (from videos and the founder's game)
founder & hetch- clear antag, might not seem like it (hetch) but they deffo are
hetch always has a red & black motif. all the other people have black boxes over their heads (or a staticky box- i dunno, it was in the you v them choice option for t_2 but after that dude dies his box goes black)
don't hide
don't escape
don't talk
don't conform
don't hesitate
ya know what that spells out? HIDE, ESCAPE, TALK, CONFORM, HESITATE. HETCH. HOLY FU-
learn the history. find kill the founder. (hey admins from school who might be recording this. i'm talking about a fictional dude not a real dude don't worry lol)
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN??? WHO'S THE FOUNDER???
I mean, we got a glimpse of him in chapters 8 and 9 of the game but he just answers questions and offs ben.
also um WHO TF IS BEN?? the whole slasher game is so weird, idk if the fortune teller had anything to do with it but that was deffo not a coincidence
when you look in the mirror the first few runs, ben looks like the "hero" from generation 1.
but a few runs later, he looks different. and the other thing that's weird is that the runs keep changing.
like the locker colors, where you go to hide, the thing you hide from- hell, even the teachers. after the janitor dies, you get rescued by the history teacher (WHO ALSO DIES.) damn no one can catch a break in the dang founders games
choice is a prominent theme in these things that ranboo creates.
the social experiments was only the first.
it happened again, with a hero, a spirit, a mastermind, an overseer, a friend, and the doomed. (as quoted from again. was that the founder who narrated it?) I mean, they said it was a beautiful story.
it was beautiful, but it was flawed, so they replayed it. again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again.
which was the founders cut. i think the things in the vhs trailer were hinting to the founders game, or maybe that's just a coincidence
but the "perfect version" was the founder's cut. the date was june 15th.
and then theres messages at the end of again- "who are you?"
could that be ben? there's messages there too- chapter 9-1-13 of the founders game, ben gets a little too self aware
here's a little transcript, starting at 9-1-13
THE FOUNDER: I don’t quite know what you mean. Why you chose to find a key to A lock that doesn’t exist is beyond even me...
BEN: "Hello?"
THE FOUNDER: Oh. You aren’t supposed to-
BEN: "Wh- where am I? Who are you?"
THE FOUNDER: See. This is what happens sometimes. You run them through the same thing and they-
BEN: "Why- why is my voice different?"
(maybe this is the real, human ben. like generation 1 ben, if he's even in a generation ig. i haven't been able to find much of anything on the founders game)THE FOUNDER: Calm down. You can't-
BEN: "This isn't my voice. Why isn't it my voice?"
(how long has he been in there?)THE FOUNDER: I apologize for this. You weren't supposed to wake like this. You weren't supposed to wake at all.
BEN: "Who are you? I can't move. Why can't I move?"
(aw :( i feel bad lol)THE FOUNDER: I’m afraid we must cut this short. Until I see you again, keep watching, keep investigating, it’s all fascinating. I will see you in my next creation.
BEN: "Why won't you answer me? What did you do to me?"
(yup. yup. yup. ben is dead, that's a definite. when we click continue after that set of dialogue, the founder, box head and all, just up and leaves, switching our "camera" off as well. before he shuts it down we can see a glimpse of a skeleton, bunches of wires and cameras connected to it. my theory is that this is ben, and as a result, ben is most likely dead. maybe ben was one of his students, like hetch)
(or maybe it's frank lol. this is just a silly idea i had but it might be some like- assassin's creed shit. reliving your highschool glory days except everything goes fucking wrong.)
(how long has he been in there, really? has to be decades for him to be just... a skeleton. is the founder in the future? why is he in a shack?)
THE FOUNDER: I’m sorry Ben, but your story has reached it’s ending.
(it seems it has, as from there the credits roll)yeah, i think that might be the last we see of ben. but i also think that he might be a part of generation 0.
or maybe this was generation 2?
i remember lex cat making a diagram in one of her theory vids for the founder's cut, sort of like
as more generations (possible loops?) are created, the less "human" the characters are. the more scary the story gets. like we can see that in the founders cut compared to the social experiments, a lot of the goofy silly moments are cut off
the human moments as well. like when ranboo was playing with the rubix cube in ep 2? the times they signaled SOS? gone. cut out. it's odd, really, they seem to dehumanize them even more, hetch's lines were spliced and redubbed to not say ranboo's name at all. just referring to them as "the hero".
could gen 2 be the founder's game? or is it a separate thing entirely, like chronicle zero?
oh god don't even get me started on chronicle zero.
like- it's an entirely seperate thing. generation 0 (the story of lostfield) and chronicle 0 are different things i'm sure, but they may be connected somehow
like- i know chronicle 0's in generation 0. that's what i mean by the seperation lol, ignore that last sentence
i mean we got zero roads
(her name is literally synonymous to the hero's plight. zero roads to the exit, no escape.)
jay
(we don't know much about them except that they're zero's friend. maybe they'll be delved upon more in the story of lostfield?)
mary
(the psychiatrist. the one seen in the end of the founders cut, i think... after the creds. the one who reccomended zero write down her dreams.)
they haven't really been expanded on besides that, but, i'm not so sure what else i can find.
yeah a lot of this is really weird. sometimes i can really relate to some of the characters in my research to find out just exactly what the hell is going on with it. there's times i feel like i've been there before, like "oh i've already seen this info haha wdym it's new" but I know this is new for me. just... a little different. a little altered. re-reading and analyzing over everything is a good distraction from irl stuff i guess. it's odd, one new thing and i get instantly sucked into wanting to know what it means. the founder was right lol
hehehe escapismmmm
site/console?: The founder will be with you shortly.
(press continue)
(we see the founder sitting in a room, or at a desk maybe. his head is blacked out, or presumably covered by a box. (like the box ranboo died in gen1?) it looks like there's a bookshelf in the background.)
THE FOUNDER: Hello there. Sorry for the wait.
THE FOUNDER: Did you enjoy my story?
(on pressing yes)
THE FOUNDER: Well, that's great to hear.
(on pressing no)
THE FOUNDER: I see. I apologize.
THE FOUNDER: You see, the story itself wasn’t that important, really. I mean, all stories are important, but for this one, the story wasn’t the thing that really mattered to me. But we will get to all of that later.
THE FOUNDER: You people are interesting, you know that? You make all of these… connections. Like there’s some grand puzzle out there. I find that beautiful, really. You’re very unique in that way from the others. I’m still trying to figure you out. I don’t have the means of giving you the full story yet, but the connection strengthens every day.
(*cries because i'm literally making a site file for this /hj-* wait uh-)
(on pressing who are you)
THE FOUNDER: I am The Founder of everything you have seen and have yet to see. My history with this world is long, tedious, and honestly at some points boring, but maybe you’ll get to see it all someday.
(on pressing who am i)
THE FOUNDER: You’re you. Wherever you are right now. Doing whatever it is you’re doing there. I can’t answer that question for all of you.
(press continue)
THE FOUNDER: So many questions. I’m always so curious that your first intention is always to solve. Then again, I am the one that put the questions there to begin with, so I can’t really complain. However, I have a question for you.
THE FOUNDER: Did you notice it? It’s hard to miss. My beautiful creations always get taken. Misconstrued. Misused. Degraded. You see, I have no way of preserving them here. Which is my fault, after all. My curse. Everything always becomes something else, it’s just how it all works here. It’s been an eternity of remembering things how they once were and never really understanding what they are now. I envy you for that reason.
(:( real)
THE FOUNDER: I won't bore you much longer with all of my problems. That would take a lot more words than I can fit in the time we have left. I’m more interested in you. It’s nice to finally speak to you through something that's only a little more than words on a screen. There’s a lot about you that I don’t understand, but yet I feel like I know you all better than I know myself.
THE FOUNDER: I can tell that some of you are probably hanging onto every word. Analyzing every sentence. Probably rearranging it, too.
(chat i've been exposed)
THE FOUNDER: It’s a fun back and forth, this thing we have. I always find it so interesting the things you leap to, and the information you’re able to find. I’ll be careful not to make anything too hard. That just wouldn't be fun. But you are fun to toy with from time to time.
(>:()
THE FOUNDER: You may be asking, “Why me? Why us? ”, and I have to say. I don’t quite understand it either. I don’t quite understand why you all specifically. All I know is that you’re exactly what I have been looking for. What I have needed all of these years. The time is finally approaching. Sometimes you don’t realize what is missing until you find it.
THE FOUNDER: I need time. Time to create. Time to find ways to show you everything that I have done and have yet to do. You will know when the time comes, but I have no way of knowing if you’ll be ready to receive it. I need to wait until the connection is stronger.
THE FOUNDER: I believe you to be one of my purposes, not my one true purpose, but one of them. Which is why I want to take care of you. I promise that none of this will affect you more than it already has. You will be spared when the time comes.
((⊙ˍ⊙) ...erm, what the scallop)
THE FOUNDER: I know what some of you may be thinking. This all just seems like a bunch of allusion and random “lore” dropped in to further some “expanding universe”, and that’s exactly what it is. Except this is different, because it is real. I have everything at my disposal. It’s fun to see you scramble and try to solve this. You may be not even reading this sentence yourself, someone might be reading it to you. That's just the beauty of what we have, don’t you see? No matter how much you try to be ahead of me, you never can. No one ever can, and no one has ever tried before.
(you think i'm gonna quit...? ;)... lmao i'm sorry-)
THE FOUNDER: This has all been for you. Although for me, it has been fun to see what you chose. It always is. I mean, 31.11% of you, after seeing what happened to the janitor before, still decided to hide! It is so interesting to see everything that you all have chosen, and everything that you have done. None of this would exist without you. You choose to watch, and therefore, I exist. If no one voted, nothing would have happened, but you chose anyway.
((⊙ˍ⊙) ...what would have happened? That's what i wonder. it's odd really)
THE FOUNDER: That third choice always existed. The choice to just not choose was always there, but you all wanted to further the story. Why? I’m sure you all had your reasoning. Some maybe hoped that you could choose the right path, and find the best ending for whoever you were choosing for, and maybe some of you just want to see how deep the rabbit hole could go. I thank you for that. I thank you for choosing.
(really... i've always wondered what would happen. is this what it meant in t_2? we "have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes", so we obvi wanted to find it out...)
THE FOUNDER: I'm sure you have many, many questions. Some of which I cannot answer, but some I am sure I can. Which is why I will give you an opportunity. Amongst all of you, choose one question. Decide on one question to ask me, and I will answer it. No matter what it is.
THE FOUNDER: So, what do you want to know?
(after question is typed in... after many questions were typed in... as of this moment, i typed in "who are you?")
THE FOUNDER: Welcome back. You all certainly had a lot that you wanted to know. All in due time. In fact, to thank you for your participation, I’ll answer some of the more… pressing matters.
THE FOUNDER: You did have quite a few different questions. I see that some of you have worked together. Which is good. It’s exactly what I’m looking for. What an unexpected surprise you have been.
THE FOUNDER: A lot of you seemed to coordinate your efforts. Either that, or you all had the same few things in mind. Either way, I am a being of my word, and I will answer your questions.
(i was today (1/24/25) years old when i learned the founder is a "being" /lh)
THE FOUNDER: Starting off, you seemed very curious about, well, you. Why you? How did I get to you? What am I doing with you? To that, I have to say that you are the only ones that can preserve. You are special from the countless ones I’ve tried to use before, and you’re the only one I’ve been able to establish this kind of connection with. I wasn’t expecting you, in all honesty. I thought you’d be another set to use, but you turned out to be so much more.
(was the audience supposed to be playing like... a character role in this game? this generation? (yes ik we were referenced in that one clip/) i don't really know where the founder's games play in generation loss, whether that be gen 1, the founders cut, or gen 0. but this line- like "I thought you’d be another set to use, but you turned out to be so much more.", is a lil concerning from a hypothetical standpoint. holy hell what's gonna happen next)
THE FOUNDER: There were a fair amount of questions about the things I have done before, and have yet to do. After all this time, it’s wonderful to be respected for my creations. However, if I were to tell you what was going to happen, that would ruin the surprise wouldn’t it? Isn’t that what you really want? Something that gets you on the edge of your seat, the big reveal, and then the resolution are all something you desire, no?
(the fact that i relate to this being)
(like i wouldn't go that far but i do care tons abt my own stories)
THE FOUNDER: So in that case, I apologize, but you aren’t going to be getting any information from me. You must be patient, these things take time to create. I won’t tell you how Miss Roads’s story begins and ends, but I can tell you that she is quite the entertaining one, and that you’re certainly in for a treat.
((⊙ˍ⊙) *gasp* ...chronicle 0 mentioned :0)
(lowkey scared abt how they just dropped that lmao /hj what does it mean?)
THE FOUNDER: There were a lot of questions about “Hetch’s creation” as well. Although I couldn’t be there to direct, I believe that he did a good job with the set that he was given. Even if he can be a bit dramatic at times. I mean, do you have any idea how many times that guy stabbed himself in the gut to make sure the cut looked right?
(...excuse me w aht :0 w h a t)
THE FOUNDER: The Social Experiments were created because, for some reason, Generation 1 had a much stronger connection to you than I initially did. So I used that, had Hetch create something to pander to you all a bit, to draw you in. I think he did a pretty good job at that. I did have to come in and rearrange a few things of course after the fact, but it was a wonderful creation to show you.
(they're referencing the founder's cut in that last sentence, huh...)
THE FOUNDER: It was the only one I could show you in full, but I digress. You obviously care a lot about that Generation, and maybe we will return to it one day. Hearts still beat after all, and that means a story can still be created.
(what's that last sentence supposed to mean???)
THE FOUNDER: With this next one, I must say, I am impressed with your coordination. You asked about your significance. What do your choices and participation have anything to do with what I create.
THE FOUNDER: You allow things to change. You allow for unpredictability, which has been making these stories interesting for me. You see, before you came along, I created, and it was good, but now you are something more within the original itself. Your reactions, your questions, your responses, are all things I can’t predict.
(honestly? real tho)
THE FOUNDER: It’s something new, after all this time, and I want nothing more than to establish this connection between us. I want to show you more, but time has always been my biggest enemy. You are a good kind of unpredictable. You aren’t like the unpredictable problem I keep facing with these stories. You are something beautiful.
(awww)
THE FOUNDER: There is something very interesting about you. You all had so many questions, about me, and about what I create. Despite me telling you that what I create affects this world, and the people in it, your biggest questions have nothing to do with if what I’m doing is even right.
(that is what's happening though. hypothetically if this wasn't a fictional horror project this last sentence would be a lot more disturbing. our curiosity is driving us to figure out what's going on. we crave to know what the hell is happening, crash into the iceberg, see how deep the rabbit hole really goes- that we don't see the consequences of our actions. it really is a social experiment, that is what i find truly beautiful about this.
(curiosity killed the cat, you know
but satisfication brought it back :))
THE FOUNDER: Now, before you leave me, there is one question that I don’t want to leave unanswered. A lot of you asked about some kind of “password”.
(from there you can just refer to the transcript i made of the convo between the founder and ben.)
gen1 may not be dead? if hetch was able to stab himseld over and over again but is still somewhat okay in the founders cut then that should probably be true for the others as well
if so then it probably loops a lot- like what the last vid i watched said, the founder looped it a fuck ton before the founders cut was made.
ben is apart of generation 0 - it says that he goes to LF high, which i believe stands for lostfield, which is like- "THE STORY OF LOSTFIELD". ya know. the thing for gen 0. there's no saying that he'll interact with characters like zero or jay but maybe we might see that.